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	<title>Comments on: another 4 am day&#8230;.</title>
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	<description>from Bill De Witt</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yes, no early morning wake up call today.... I actually slept in 15 minutes too late, so no breakfast for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yes, no early morning wake up call today&#8230;. I actually slept in 15 minutes too late, so no breakfast for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.ke6lbm.com/2005/08/29/another-4-am-day/comment-page-1/#comment-3514</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. Sorry for the misunderstanding....

Yesterday, the Gabbianni double end tennenor was the early morning problem. It's a machine that has 4 rotating tools, that performs a squaring operation while applying a profile to the edges of the part. Parts are fed in as continuous line, the lengthwise sides get profiled first, then the parts are moved 90 degrees through a second machine (same controller computer system though), for the width wise sides.

That's run off of Access.... The Italian's crazy thinking is that Access allows you to keep each part number separate, and then have a massive data tracking system behind it. Start time, stop time, length of break time, maintenance time, cleaning time, etc.  Great idea. When it works. It just doesn't work that well. The only info on the web I can find on &lt;a href="http://www.scmgroup.com/private/bin/indice/catalogo;jsessionid=DNBAOHAOBOAI?categoria=11&#38;locale=en&#38;marchioId=GABBIANI" rel="nofollow"&gt;Gabbiani&lt;/a&gt; is just their distribution system. And none of those machines listed there are what we have.

Now the routers, those run of an Osai PLC controller. The models being made today have a windows controller, but that's not an easy upgrade to some older machines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. Sorry for the misunderstanding&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yesterday, the Gabbianni double end tennenor was the early morning problem. It&#8217;s a machine that has 4 rotating tools, that performs a squaring operation while applying a profile to the edges of the part. Parts are fed in as continuous line, the lengthwise sides get profiled first, then the parts are moved 90 degrees through a second machine (same controller computer system though), for the width wise sides.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s run off of Access&#8230;. The Italian&#8217;s crazy thinking is that Access allows you to keep each part number separate, and then have a massive data tracking system behind it. Start time, stop time, length of break time, maintenance time, cleaning time, etc.  Great idea. When it works. It just doesn&#8217;t work that well. The only info on the web I can find on <a href="http://www.scmgroup.com/private/bin/indice/catalogo;jsessionid=DNBAOHAOBOAI?categoria=11&amp;locale=en&amp;marchioId=GABBIANI" rel="nofollow">Gabbiani</a> is just their distribution system. And none of those machines listed there are what we have.</p>
<p>Now the routers, those run of an Osai PLC controller. The models being made today have a windows controller, but that&#8217;s not an easy upgrade to some older machines.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 04:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So wait a sec, you're telling me this router machine runs off of an Access database?  What are those Italians smoking?

On the bright side, compacting and repairing the database can be helpful in eliminating issues.  Then again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So wait a sec, you&#8217;re telling me this router machine runs off of an Access database?  What are those Italians smoking?</p>
<p>On the bright side, compacting and repairing the database can be helpful in eliminating issues.  Then again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 04:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Access database "ToolTable" blew up. Gave a crazy message in Italian (oh yes, the machine is all in Italian). Usually, I just click on repair when the message comes up, or replace the database with a back up.

But this time, hopefully, compacting it will be more advantages

If it happens again, I'll try to write down the error for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Access database &#8220;ToolTable&#8221; blew up. Gave a crazy message in Italian (oh yes, the machine is all in Italian). Usually, I just click on repair when the message comes up, or replace the database with a back up.</p>
<p>But this time, hopefully, compacting it will be more advantages</p>
<p>If it happens again, I&#8217;ll try to write down the error for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the trials and tribulations of MS Access.  Having built quite a few of those, I can say that while as a basic database it is pretty easy to set up, anything advanced leads to limitations and annoyances.  Out of curiosity, what's the issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the trials and tribulations of MS Access.  Having built quite a few of those, I can say that while as a basic database it is pretty easy to set up, anything advanced leads to limitations and annoyances.  Out of curiosity, what&#8217;s the issue?</p>
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